SAGAL: And the last one - and this is a word I know, but I'm told there's a special meaning in your world - which is sickening. POUNDSTONE: You just served Peter so much face that he's going to have to take some of it to-go.

You're just serving face, darling, giving them all the - everything that's here. SYMONE: Serving face - so serving face means kind of like you are beat, and you're giving it to the camera like so. But let's - OK - just so you know who you're dealing with. SAGAL: Just to let you know, when you said snatched is like beat, it helped me not at all. So you - makeup can be snatched, and then you can literally be snatched in the face (laughter).

Or you could be snatched in the sense of, you know, some girls they'll take back your temples for - and you'll snatched. You know, like the makeup is good, the makeup is there, your face is beat - another word for beat, really. And I wanted to ask you about some drag lingo that I have no idea what any of this means.

As I think I have made clear, intentionally or not, I'm somewhat new to the world of drag. They're like, you know, there's lip-syncing, but it looks like those words are really coming out of your mouth. SYMONE: You have no idea how many people say that to me. And you're over here, and it's like, oh, you're actually singing it. I mean, it's like, this person, this drag queen is lip-syncing this song. SYMONE: Having to lip-sync against me, the ebony enchantress. And I watched maybe three of them from this last season just in a row. She had to go home, pack her bags, get out. But the show, if I understand correctly, the show often ended with a lip-sync battle. It's a competition show, but there are there are various things going on that are unique to it. SAGAL: And, of course, I want to talk about the show, 'Drag Race,' Which is amazing. SYMONE: Foundation didn't match the body, so there were three different shade going on, honey.

And it was definitely a process because, honey, I used to wear tights, and the foundation did not match the tights. And then I kind of got to a point of like, OK, I had to figure out who I was and really, like, dig down deep and find my passions. I just want to be on stage, and I just, you know, want to feel happy. At first, I kind of was just like, I just want to drag, you know? I don't really care about what I looked like. SAGAL: Did it - was it a process of evolution to find your look and your persona, or is it just there for you? POUNDSTONE: You are gorgeous and stunning. If only all our listeners could be on Zoom with us. Very expressive, very just happy, effervescent, if you will, and just happy to be here, gorgeous, stunning. I would say Symone is who I didn't let myself be when I was a kid. SAGAL: And tell me about, like, Symone as a character. You just wanted to skip right to the part when you win. I just - it was a lot of money for a 1 out of 50 chance of winning. SYMONE: I mean, for lack of a better term, that's what I wanted.

SYMONE: I was just - I wanted to be a model, a woman (laughter). And what was the version that you were more attracted to? Like, it's a pageant but with drag queens. Like, it's like a pageant, and girls go and they compete. SYMONE: Pageant - it's like, you know, very like - like, there is a Gay Miss America. PAULA POUNDSTONE: What do you mean pageant? And so not really my gig, but I learned a lot from the girls. There was a pretty good drag scene, but it was very pageant, as you can probably imagine. So was there a big drag scene in Arkansas when you were growing up there? SAGAL: I want to get to your origin story first. Very - everywhere, everyone wants to talk to me. So I got to ask first, what has it been like since you won? I mean, I'm assuming it's like Miss America and you have to, like, go places and make appearances. I'm on cloud nine - still up there (laughter). SAGAL: It is an absolute joy to have you. And aficionados of the show say that no champion matches Symone, winner of the most recent season, for style, beauty, talent and sheer glam. For 13 seasons, 'RuPaul's Drag Race' has given aspiring drag queens a chance to hit the big time under the tutelage of the greatest supermodel of the world.

And now the game where people who have won big have the chance to win very, very small.

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